Case ID: FFL087021 - SHEEHAN, PATRICK VS. CINDY
There is a document on the website of the Superior Court of California County of Solano which describes Case ID: FFL087021 - SHEEHAN, PATRICK VS. CINDY, filed Friday, August 12th, 2005. The case is described as "D - Dissolution without kids".
This appears to describe a divorce between Cindy Sheehan and Pat Sheehan.
Pat is the Petitioner and his attorney is Glen Andrew Deronde (FindLaw). We were unable to reach Mr. Deronde for confirmation. Cindy Sheehan is the respondent with no attorney listed. The judge in the case is Alberta Chew.
This appears to describe a divorce between Cindy Sheehan and Pat Sheehan.
Pat is the Petitioner and his attorney is Glen Andrew Deronde (FindLaw). We were unable to reach Mr. Deronde for confirmation. Cindy Sheehan is the respondent with no attorney listed. The judge in the case is Alberta Chew.
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8/14/2005 01:46:00 AM
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I guess what Cindy Sheehan meant by saying that she and her husband were on the same page was that both of their names were on divorce papers.
If this is something other than a sick stunt, it goes a long way in explaining why Mr. Sheehan isn't talking (as in, on advice of counsel).
Tom Blumer
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Your links don't work.
Irregardless of their relationship......Pat has made it clear he supports his wife and is behind her 100%.
Smear campaigns are just plain ugly.
best wishes marie
Most of you sound like salacious, malignant morans.
Just because they are getting divorced does not mean that he does not support her in this stance.
You guys are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Rather than focusing on her private life, why don't you focus on why a 48 year old mother is standing in a ditch protesting our President.
Regards,
Jack.
In response to a question about the e-mail written by her sister-in-law
" Cindy treated it with a shrug. Her husband will send out a more detailed response soon. In the meantime, Cindy says the letter is to be treated as little more than bad, dumb noise."
Is the more detailed reponse from her husband the divorce papers he filed the next day?
Man the dums are deny, deny, deny, at all cost. They refuse to believe the truth because they have a self-consitent world view which does not allow for the possibility that they could be wrong.
FACT: Cindy and Pat sheehan are separated. Pat disagrees with Cindy's activities and has left her because of them. Her youngest daughter is on a downward spiral of partying and drinking as an attempt to cope with her brother's death and she is so wrapped up in her own cause and celebrity that she doesn't have time to try and help lher family. This is not a sympathetic figure, she is a hateful, destructive, selfish woman who is more interested in her political agenda than she is in honoring her son or saving her family.
Malvin is a slimey mother.
Hey, great catch!
I will be posting this on my blog. (www.cahsconservative.blogspot.com)
Schooler
That figures. Another of "someone else's tapes" you can play in your blogette to support your young ignorance.
Oh please! Her youngest daughter is on a "downward spiral of partying and drinking?" hahahahahaha Yeah, partying and drinking is ONLY done by kids whose mother is anti-war. (And of course, MR. Sheehan is totally helpless, unable to parent!)
It's common, you dummy. Try as you might, you cannot make Cindy into Stepford Woman. Just see the light, 1950 male -- women are equal to men.
These poor men! They cannot handle equality. So, go into the corner and whine, boys.
Focus on why she is there? You mean as a pawn of the far left?
The only one who said that Pat supports Cindy...is Cindy. It's obvious he doesn't support her point of view.
She's doing a disservice and has tarnished her son's name. It's a very sad thing indeed.
"Good find"? "hat tip"?
Do you neo-cons have any principles that you actually stand behind or is it anything goes as long as it suits your agenda? What happened to rejecting the "politics of personal destruction"? Whatever happened to simple decency and basic, common courtesy?
What does this unfortunate woman's marriage have to do with her dissenting positions on this war? Why don't we stick to the argument here instead of dredging up personal shit on people? The fact that someone disagrees with you is not an invitation to go National Enquirer on the poor woman.
And I really loved a neo-con posting a comment like this without any hint of self-awareness or irony: "They refuse to believe the truth because they have a self-consitent world view which does not allow for the possibility that they could be wrong."
Her marriage is part of her image, that's why it's being examined. It's been part of this whole story from the beginning: sobbing mom, wounded family, happy home destroyed by heartless president, etc. She picked this battlefield, so now she's got to defend it. We've already heard about her extended family being estranged from her; it looks like that wasn't just a one-time thing. There seems to be a pattern here, of jettisoning people if they don't support her, and that raises questions about just how healthy she is mentally. There's also the fact that she wasn't entirely honest about her family situation; we were led to believe that her husband really supported her, he just wasn't participating in her protest. The truth appears to be more complicated, so now it's not easy to trust her version of things. She also says her other children are firmly behind her - are they? I don't believe they are, and I expect we'll find that out in another day or two.
Exactly Wanda,
Another Day, Another Lie from Camp Sheehan
Just another day in the sickoid atmospher of dysfunctional America....you guys are SO sick you refuse to have ANY hereos....the Zionists either murder them or slander them to death.
It was only a matter of time before you pilloried Cindy...why don't you murder her now like you did with JFK, RFK and MLK
Hopefully, your sickoid society will kill itself shortly.
you guys are SO sick you refuse to have ANY hereos.
How in the world is Cindy Sheehan a hero?
Casey is a hero, Cindy is not.
Cindy Sheehan is affiliated with Code Pink according to the Crawford Peace House website, that group funded the very terrorists who killed Casey.
And the copy right to hate goes on and on and on from the left.
" Most of you sound like salacious, malignant morans."
That's moRON, genius.
Good catch!
It may be true. John Walsh, of America's Most Wanted, and his wife divorced. They cited the difficulty of losing their son. Losing a child can affect a marriage no matter how it occurs. I guess Walsh and his wife were not on the same page about fighting crime, RIGHT?!?!
I don't know anything about John Walsh and his wife. And I'm not trying to develop a universal rule into which I can cram every unrelated incident - Procrustean Bed concepts seem to be the province of the Left right now, along with conspiracy theories. This particular family seems to have gone to pieces in its own particular way, and to me it looks like Cindy Sheehan's actions are as much a cause of the breakdown as the death of her son.
This is for KEVIN CLARKE:
I could have responded to any of the obvious left wingers out there who have commented on Cindy Sheehan's protest. Protest? Really? But, I chose to pick on you Kevin for the obvious reason, that you obviously do not know how to reason. So, are you kidding or do you just have crap for brains. Here is the initial comment you made on Aug 14th: QUOTE: Do you neo-cons have any principles that you actually stand behind or is it anything goes as long as it suits your agenda? What happened to rejecting the "politics of personal destruction"? Whatever happened to simple decency and basic, common courtesy." UNQUOTE. So, now, I ask you again, are you kidding? Principles, simple decency, common courtesy? Have you just decided to ignore Howard Dean (the obvious KING of HATE SPEECH coming out of the Democratic Party) Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, Dick Durbin, Barbara Boxer, Hillary Clinton, and should I go on Kevin? How many liberal LEADERS (and I use the term so loosely as to be almost non-existant) of the Democratic party have done EXACTLY what you claim the neo-cons are doing to Cindy Sheehan. It is a veritable full house of left wing vitriolic that comes out of the Democratic Party these days. How do YOU feel about what they have done to your party, or are you just another one of them? So, before you decide to throw stones at neo-cons, you might want to clean up your own house first. You people on the left have gotten so loose with truth and fairness, that you would not recognize it if it slapped you in the face. And, by the way, Cindy Sheehan is not the only mother who has lost a son in a war where our values are being defended. But, as a vetran of over 37 years in our Armed Forces, having served with thousands of honorable men and women in our military, I can say with certainty that her son would be horrified at what she is doing in his name. She is not a sympathetic figure, she is pathetic, as are those who are backing her.
Someone posted they were upset that the daughter is in a "downward spiral" of partying to cope. What are the Bush girls trying to cope with? The difficulties of their jobs? The chance they may have to join the military to pay for education? Wait, those are problems the rest of us deal with. I guess they're just slobbering drunks. I guess if Sheehan were President, we wouldn't attack her children in that vein. Seriously, I am a conservative...well, in the way people used to be conservative, when we actually had the higher road. The neo-cons have led you all astray. You all sound like children. It's depressing. Not depressing enough I'll actually vote for a Democrat, but Libertarianism (pro-business, not neo-con) is looking more and more atttractive. Seriously, reading the latest partisan hackery is truly depressing. The neo-cons have ruined what was once a grand old party.
Ummmm...are folks aware that the death of a child all by itself is the cause of many divorces?
Don't folks think that just MAYBE there were other issues BEFORE Cindy Sheehan's trip to Crawford that precipitated the divorce?
And the big question:
What the hell does her divorce that NO ONE knows the details of have to do with anything? Guess ya'll are scraping for ANYTHING to get the focus off of her message!
I wish someone would tell me what is the meaning of neo-con-is it new conservative? I have been a republican for forty years and have never heard this phrase until recently.
Umm, yeah right. Let's not focus on her private life. Just because her husband filed for divorce right in the middle of her publicity stunt, means absolutely nothing. Nope, not related. Not possible. Nyet, nein, non.
lol
the ideological blindness of the left is astounding.
To the reader above, "What is a neo-con?" Yes, it is short for neo-conservative. I think the party was defined by the PNAC. The PNAC was written by many people in the current administration, including Rummy, Cheney, Wolfy, et al... No, Bush don't do lotsa writin'. They are most definable by their belief that pre-emptive strike is America's prerogative based on our position as a world leader. They have basically made an ideology out of war profiteering and winning political struggles through bullying rather than diplomacy. Witness Bolton for the neo-con's version of diplomacy. They have abandoned all decency because they are just so right, and that juvenille world view is supported by the kind of partisan hackery associated with stories like this. Seriosly, are we really so upset with this mother of a dead soldier? Is she really so batshit, "crackpot" crazy that she only managed to raise an Eagle Scout fallen war hero for a son? You all can't look past your ideologies, because your neo-con heroes have convinced you that you no longer have to. Cooperation did not hurt this country before, and the end of diplomacy is not some great win for the Republicans, it is a takeover by the neo-cons, and you guys gobble it up like soilent green. You literally sound like you are all 12 or 13 years old posting hateful things like this. I remember people decrying John Walsh using his son's death to get his own TV show. It was small-minded of folks to say things like that, and juvenille. Maybe he did, but the result has been, what, 15 or so years of civillian participation in making our streets safer? Boy, what an exploitative shithead! You are only mad because you disagree with Sheehan's ideology, not because you really believe she is doing something evil. Malkin, who has the mind of an spoiled, angry teenager, once pointed out that reporting on Robert's adoption of his children was "dumpster diving" for a story. But this is different? Ooooooh, her child died and now she's going through a divorce! See, she's full of it! Seriously, the logic around here is getting down to about a 4 year old level now. Not because you are sincerely all dumb, but because you are blinded by partisanship. The man who once said he was a "uniter, not a divider" has taken every opportunity to drive a wedge between us all, and blind partisans take the bait with ease. Here's the story: her son died, she is incredibly berieved, she is fighting to end the war that killed her son. Misguided? Perhaps. An evil Michael Moore backed plan to take over the world and make you all watch Bill Maher standup, causing her family to divorce her and drink/party to cope with the shame? Man, it takes a very simple mind to stand in that place. If your logic really doesn't reach any further than that, I suggest you slide the keyboard away from yourself, and go join in this 100% noble fight. Go take Casey's seat, and fight for what you believe in with something more than a keyboard, 6 or 7 half-baked ideas, and a yellow ribbon-shaped bumper sticker that seems to announce that you support the troops by buying bumper stickers in the shape of a yellow ribbon. Seriously, you make the $3.50 plunge at a gas station, and you're suddenly a foreign-policy pundit? Sit in an as-yet-unarmored humvee in blistering heat and sandstorms waiting for the next round of mortars to hit for a couple of years, and then you can claim to have "supported" some troops. Or you can talk about one of the dead soldier's sister's drinking problem, snicker about the berieved parent's divorce, spend a few bucks on a car sticker made from Chinese prison labor, plop in a Lee Greenwood tape, and call yourself American. Let me tell you about America, it was FOUNDED on dissent, and you all honor the men, the SOLDIERS, who died to give you that by pissing on dissent every time you get a chance. I may never vote Democrat (I never have), but barring some miracle, or some radical return to good old fashioned small governemt Republicanism, I will never vote Republican again. I'll say again, that the neo-cons have taken what was once a grand old party and ruined it, and you have all facilitated this by refusing to question your leaders, and by lacking the ability to use reason over partisan hackery to formulate your opinions. Seriously, I think I'm a Libertarian now. If the next candidate is a neo-con, I vow before God and man to abandon the party. And the rest of you can place Hannity's hand firmly up your puppet-holes and rest easy thinking you support troops or whatever you think you are doing driving the ideological wedge deeper. To put it simply, I would never have voted for John Kerry, but my heart goes out to this woman, sincerely. How you have all been fooled into thinking those sentiments can't exist within the same belief system is beyond me. Bring the troops home now? No serious thinker believes that is a good idea, not now. Hopefully soon, but not today. Throw tomatoes at the mother of a fallen hero because she doesn't agree with Sean Hannity? Oh ,GROW UP!
To the above ANONYMOUS ON 16 Aug:
First, let me say that I find it REPUGNANT that you do not have the courage of your convictions to identify yourself. And that goes for the rest of you, on both sides, who do it. It shows cowardice of a high degree. You will put your words out there for everyone to see, but, don't have the courage of your convictions to announce who you are. So very, very SAD! Consequently, your comments bear little integrity, nor are they worthy of belief or consideration, no matter how much you think your comments deserve to be considered. Now, to my point: Personally, I don't give a fat rat's ass about Cindy Sheehan, and her family situation. The Press should ignore that in the same way they should be ignoring what she is doing in Crawford. She has NO credibility, she has no honor, she has not a shred of integrity. But, the left-wing MSM just loves that, doesn't it. That is just the kind of person they love to support and give air time to. So, I will say, again, that Cindy Sheehan is not a sympathetic figure, she is pathetic. If she were just grieveing her son, as many hundreds are doing all over the country with dignity and thoughtfulness, then I could easily understand her position. But, that is not what she is doing. She has moved her personal grief into the political arena, and done it viciously, by slanding the President of the United States. Go back and check her comments following her meeting with President Bush last year in Washington. They are remarkably SOOOO totally different to what she is saying now. Did MOVEON.ORG, or Michael Moore, or any other left wing slandering liberal group or indvidual coach her to do the 180? Hell, I don't know, but, I do know that she is lying now. There is not a President who has not felt the grief and sorrow of losing every soldier he has had to send into battle. To say that Bush is some kind of automaton (my word) who does not consider the consequences of putting men in harm's way is ludicrous. That is not to say he has not made many, many mistakes in the way he has fought this stupid war, hell I don't think we should be there either, but, until the job is done, I WILL SUPPORT OUR PRESIDENT to overcome these killers who are trying to take over the world. Maybe that is just my nearly 38 years of military service to my country and 9 presidents talking, but, I am proud of George Bush and the way he has met the challenge of fighting these lunatics. And, I hope and pray, no, I know he will not give up and run from the challenge, any more than Ron Reagan did in fighting communism when those Nutcake mothers in England were campaigning outside our bases there in the 80s for us to disarm and leave the communists alone. They did not prevail, but, Reagan and the West did because HE stayed the course. In the same way, Cindy Sheehan and the rest of the leftwingers supporting her in Texas and everywhere else, including in Congress by the likes of Kennedy, Clinton, Durbin, Boxer, et al, will not prevail in this struggle. George Bush is right, they are WRONG. We will only defeat the terrorists by STRENGTH. And, that does not mean by running from the fight. They brought it on, our President will finish it. And, the Cindy Sheehans of the world only make the situation worse by giving comfort to the enemy who KILLED HER SON!!!! (And, should you think my last comment has no validity, go back and check the comments of the North Vietnamese Communists leaders about the protest movement of the Viet Nam war era and how the nutjobs in American, like Jane Fonda, et al, just gave them courage to continue the struggle that they NEVER in a million years should have prevailed in. How very sad when people don't consider the consequences of their actions!!)
david,
Posting anonymously is cowardly, but call me yeller. I think you are a nutter, and I didn't want you having my name. That said, you didn't address a single point I made, but you said my points have no integrity. I humbly disagree. I live my life with integrity, and I am proud to be an American, a father, an engineer, and a husband. That said, I am happy you support your president. You have that right. My point was that this woman is being attacked for partisan reasons only, and I see that as a symptom of a disease that has infected the Republican party, once the only party that represented what America has always stood for. Those days are over. I have a sincere belief that neither major party aptly does that any longer. As for your views that the only patriotic thing is to support the president, I say to you that that is exactly the opposite of what America was established to accomplish. A beacon of liberty is now a beacon of "do what I say"? Roosevelt once said "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but morally treasonable to the American public". Whether or not you agree with that, it is very hard to deny that is one of the founding principles of this country. If you disagree with that, you have clearly not read our amazing Constitution. The president is not wrong to fight terrorism, but many on the right, center, and left argue, I think compellingly, that we are on the wrong battlefield. That said, to leave Iraq today would be disastrous and would harm Iraq more than staying and finishing the job. Witness the first conflict there, left unfinished, to the huge detriment of baathist detractors. But this woman's only crime is being misguided. Michael Moore has no credibility, and moveon.org is a blog of partisan hackery. They toe the line to the detriment of their own credibility. Much like most of the Republican party right now. The "liberal" media likes to call it party discipline, but it is clearly a case of real Americans shutting down their own thought processes to defeat this imagined liberal demon that will make you all drink lattes and watch Farhenheit 9/11 (which was crap). I merely was pointing out that I am abandoning the GOP for what I consider to be good reasons, and this episode, this mud slinging at our patriots mothers (Cindy is not the only one out there), is a symptom of what has driven me away. I DO NOT SUPPORT PULLING OUT OF IRAQ TODAY, TOMORROW, OR NEXT WEEK. But you imbeciles are attacking the wrong target. I respect that you don't give a "fat rat's ass" about the mother who raised a man who became an altar boy, an honor student, an Eagle Scout, a marine, and ultimately, a hero to this country. I not only respect that, I think it is right in line with the disingenuous "compassionate conservative" claims made on the campaign trail. But let's forget how little you care for a moment and rationally look at this situation. Bush doesn't have to pull out of Iraq to defuse this situation. He just has to sit down with her, say he disagrees with her, but feels deeply sorrowed at her loss. I know that I know that I know that Reagan would have done at least as much. In all fairness, he had more charisma than Bush, though. Then what can she do? Demand control of our foreign policy? Extremely unlikely. But in the meantime, all you ditto-heads can think to do is throw sand in her eyes? Run over crosses? Fire warning shots. (Call it what you want, I grew up in the south, a rifle shot to the sky is a warning. Period. Practicing for hunting, indeed.) I point the finger here and say this kind of ignorant mud-slinging is going to create a backlash. It already is. Polls are terrible for Bushy right now, and I can think of at least one person who is not even looking back on my way out the door. My name, David, is Tre Daniels, I am a father of 2, a faithful husband, an engineer, and a patriot, and I am thankful you served this country. I can tell you I'll never vote for anti-business Democrats, but I can also say I'll never be in the "big tent" (riiiiight) that has become the GOP. And I wonder, David, were you as angry at Schiavo's parents for having "moved thier grief into the political arena"? I doubt it. I doubt you flamed on the blogs over that one. You have lost reason, David, as have most of us. That is the disease. The end of reason has infected this country. You, David, are merely a symptom.
Well, well, well nice of you to come out from behind your anonimity, Tre. And, no, I am not a nutter, nor would I try to find you or really care about ever meeting you. My last entry was not necessarily to address "your" points, but, to point out that what is going on in Crawford, TX is a sham and counter productive. And, by the way, why not go back and count the number of times you threw out names to attack me? or others of a right bent. Not sure why you thought you had to do that, I did not, except to say that in anonimity, there is no integrity. No, I have not lost reason. I am just a simple man who sees things as black and white. By the way, I particularly enjoyed your "disingenuous, compassionate conservative" comment. (I honor the Sheehan family sacrifice, as have all others who have served this country, but, don't find it necessary to get into their private lives for any reason. My point there was that NO ONE should. She has chosen to allow it to happen.) Nice, very nice. So, thanks for that. Personally, I don't care what you say about me. And, I was not trying to address your abondonment of the GOP or whatever else you find sacred. Go crazy and do what you want. My point was Cindy Sheen is not being productive in what she is doing, in fact, she, and the left wing press and politicians who support her are being the exact opposite. And, I will address ONE point you made in your last missive. Tell me, Tre, how many times does President Bush have to meet with this woman? Two, three, twenty-three before she is satisfied? He met with her, as he has with many other family members. She needs to move on, and live her life. And, just so you know that you don't know or understand me, I was upset at all sides of the Terry Schiavo situation. Including the conservative judge(s) who did not follow the law, or at least good judgement. This is a totally different situation with Sheehan. The Schiavo situation did not have an effect on foreign policy. What Sheehan is doing in Texas does, to the detriment of the US. And, if you can't see that, then Y0U might ask yourself if YOU are a symptom of that huge problem.
I too have lost my son in IRAG. His name is LCpl Jason E. Smith, United Staes Marine. He was killed on December 31, 2004. He saw good out of what he was doing in Iraq. He described it as helping the children of Iraq. Cindy describes her cause as being supported by parents that have lost sons or daughters in Iraq. From my discussions with outher families in Arizona, very few families support her. She also implies that she and her husband also believe it. From what I understand now, her husband does not see it the same way as she does.
She did meet with Bush in June 2004 !
I read all the opinions from pros & cons alike. What bothers me the most is that being either DEM. or REP. most of you are blinded by the rhetoric that was indoctrinated by your party. Bless you if you have that much faith in the ALMIGHTY. If you did, you would leave this poor women alone to suffer her mourning in her own way. What ever happened to supporting the BEST MAN for office let alone cheering on a lame duck that couldn`t fly by himself if need be. Thank GOD year 2008 is coming.
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